How did you first become aware or involved with Baltimore’s ballroom culture?
JP: A Lyft driver asked me if I was “in the life” and told me to check out Club Bunns, the epicenter of Baltimore’s ballroom culture. This happened the day I moved to the city in July 2018. I’d also just been to Berlin, where a friend introduced me to European ballroom culture. I was blown away by the talent and creativity I saw on the runway. The balls I saw in Europe were opulent, larger-than-life affairs. When I walked into the George Peabody Library, with its dramatic atrium and cast iron balconies, it just seemed to cry out for ballroom performance. I checked out Club Bunns, reached out to a few ballroom leaders via Facebook, and the rest is history.
MRC: I was aware about the ballroom culture and scene in 1998-99 through my friends during my early days of being a part of the New Edition Community marching band. We were all were members of the organization. They introduce me to the scene and the lifestyle and the house of Revlon.
In your opinion, what has been the historical function of Baltimore ballroom and vogue dance culture and how has it evolved? Where does one experience it now vs. where would one have experienced it earlier on?
JP: I’ve been recording oral histories with Baltimore’s ballroom community as part of the larger project. I’ll quote my interview with the Legendary Mother Monique West, who talked about change over time: “Ballroom was underground. It was the only place where we could go. Black/gay/trans people weren’t privileged at all, in any kind of way then. So they had to build an underground forum for people like us. We went to ballrooms to express who we were. [But] people can express themselves anywhere at this point.
They can get on TV and vogue. Beyoncé dances vogue. [The mainstreaming] has its good and it has its bad. The bad points to me is that other people are getting a lot of credit for something that we went through a lot of blood, sweat, and tears to build, and we don’t really get much from it. The good part is some people are getting off the streets, getting picked up for gigs. So it’s working in some people’s favor.”
MRC: Ballroom started in NYC. As it has grown, it began to travel to different cities and Baltimore was one of them. And over time it has grown and grown and has now gone international as well. I started voguing in 1999 and through time I learned, walked, battled, won, and being consistent with it allowed me to become one of the legendary icon masters of vogue. I now teach vogue and share the history with people all over Baltimore and across the world.
I heard many speakers and performers talk about the evening as historic because the Peabody Library has not been a place open to “people like us” in the past. Literally, they pointed to the glass ceiling (gorgeous!) and said that the experience was, for them, tantamount to breaking a historic barrier in Baltimore. Can you talk more about what this means to you?
MRC: Ballroom was an underground community and a culture for the black and Latino LGBTQ community of color that has now gone mainstream. For the community to have the chance of hosting a ball in the Peabody library, no one would have ever imagined. So to be able to accomplish that is a blessing and a milestone within itself, a humbling experience, one to never forget. We made history.
JP: Ballroom is having a mainstream moment. The past few years have seen TV shows like Pose and My House and events at major art museums. One of the dangers of mainstreaming is that outsiders can co-opt and appropriate the culture, often for their own financial gain. One of the first things I did when I launched the project was create an advisory group of ballroom leaders to organize an event that was by ballroom, for ballroom.
The board included the Iconic Sebastian Escada; Legendary Mother Marco Blahnik of the House of Manolo Blahnik; Londyn Smith De Richelieu (Mother Miyake Mugler); Legendary Enrique St. Laurent; and Keith Ebony Holt, Father of The House of Ebony. We also prioritized ballroom attendance at the event.